Jon takes us to task over our glowing review of Windows 10

By | July 20, 2015

Hi TC and EB,

Windows 10 looks good, has nice features, and appears to be as efficient as Windows 7 with added ‘nice things’.

However, with the Home edition, I disagree entirely that Microsoft will install updates at their will, not mine, especially as it is a ‘new’ OS, and, I-betcha that there are glitches, which is understandable, as nothing ever made by ‘man’ is perfect.

If the recent past is an indication, a few updates have caused problems……..don’t M/S check if their updates are faulty, and I for-see this situation of “You will accept updates from Microsoft, like it or not”, very much un-acceptable to users with savvy………….then look at Windows 10 Pro, accept the downloads, or, after eight months suffer the consequences of computer shut-down.

Surely TC and EB, you can’t in all honesty, accept the dictatorship of Microsoft and give accolades to Windows 10 without advising members of the negative side of Windows 10. Irresspective of the accolades and beat-up you give to Windows 10………………in many ways I wish to advise…..’it does not wash’…………..Windows 7 on 3 our machines will remain until Microsoft cease being dictators…..imagine a car manufacturer telling a client how to drive the vehicle he paid for.

Regards,

Jon

Hi Jon. You’ve been with a long time and you should know that in all the years we’ve been on the Web (almost 20) we have never written anything we didn’t believe. Sure, we’ve made mistakes along the way – but they were honest mistakes and we corrected them. Have you ever known us to write something we didn’t believe to be true and in the best interests of our readers? We have made a few errors of the last 18 years, but our review of Windows 10 isn’t one of them.

A little background

Let me give you and those reading this a little history on how we’ve tested new versions of Windows in past. We started Cloudeight back in the day of Windows 95. At that point in time we had no access to beta versions of Windows, but we were always looking for something new, something better, something different – as most folks are when they get involved in something new and exciting. When Windows 95 – by today’s standard – was a real mess. We came to figure out that if we formatted our hard drives and re-installed Windows ever 3 months it ran better. Also, using it more than a couple hours at time resulted in a computer that barely worked because of the memory leaks that existed in that version of Windows. I can  remember the day Windows 98 came out both Darcy and I were the one of the first people in the store to buy it; we came racing home with excitement and installed it. It was so much better than Windows 95.

Then Microsoft came out with Windows 98 SE (second edition) and I believe that was released as service pack (though it’s been so long ago I can’t remember). Windows 98SE was like a dream compared to the old Windows 95 – yet there were those, back in that day, who clung to Windows 95 no matter how glowing the reviews of Windows 98 were.

Microsoft then made one of its – “We need a new operating system to make billions more dollars” and rushed to market with Windows ME (Windows Millennium), a cute name to play on the turn of the century hoopla that was going on back in 1999. Windows ME was Microsoft first sales disaster. Like we did with Windows 98, we rushed to the store to buy Windows ME on its release day. We installed it and after a couple weeks of using it we were both back to using Windows 98SE. Windows ME was a mess. It had that half-finished feel – not much more than a terrible update to Windows 98SE – it was, however the edition of Windows that introduced System Restore – one of the few pluses in Windows ME.

It didn’t take Microsoft long to realize what a sales disaster (and piece of work) Windows ME was -although it allowed manufacturers to keep pumping out new Windows ME PCs. Microsoft made billions on it but lost a lot of customer loyal and it lost a lot of respect from those in the tech industry.

Bill Gates, to his credit, dressed down the Windows teams after the failure of Windows ME and tasked them to come up with an operating system built from scratch – all previous versions of Windows for home users, were built on the preceding version of Windows. The result was Windows XP.

I began using Windows XP in its early beta stage. After a couple of months, I liked it so well that I upgraded my main PC to it against my better judgement. I found it so fun to use and so different from Windows 98SE (and ME) that I wanted to use it full time. And I did.

At the time I was trusting my computer to a beta version of Windows XP, we had the biggest email stationery site on the Web. The name Cloudeight meant great email stationery because we wanted to be the best. We had hundreds of thousands of email subscribers, and over 12 million unique visitors to our site a year. The only reason I mention that is if something would have gone wrong with XP – some major glitch- it would have hurt our business.  But I had used it for 2 months on a second computer and loved it. I trusted it would work as well six months down the road as it had the first 2 months – and it did.

There were a lot of glowing reviews about Windows XP all over the Internet, including ours. Yet there were millions using Windows 98 who swore they’d never upgrade – they were happy with Windows 98. Then there were the cautious users who decided to wait until Microsoft ironed out the glitches in Windows XP – but XP was so widely tested by so many people – there were no major glitches with Windows XP – not when it was release and not in its service life. We, along with hundreds of millions of others, really liked Windows XP. It was and is a great testament to what a company can do if it cares about customers.

But for some reason a few years later (2006) Microsoft want back to its money-mode and hurried out Windows Vista. At the time, I needed a new computer and my exposure to Windows Vista came when I bought a new computer – I didn’t rush out to buy an upgrade disk to upgrade to Vista. I had tested the Vista beta version and came away with the same feeling I had about Windows ME. Vista was a horrible, resource hungry, and buggy version of Windows. I would have never upgraded XP to Vista.

Microsoft again, realized what a mistake Vista was – no so much because of its sales or review but because it lost a lot of business when Netbooks were all the rage. Vista was too resource-hungry and wouldn’t work on Netbooks, so Microsoft reluctantly allowed Netbook makers to install Windows XP on them – and this is why the service life of XP was extended 5 extra years.

Windows 7 followed and it corrected the mistakes MS made with Vista. I liked Windows 7 when I was using it in Beta and ended up upgrading my Vista computer to Windows 7. Windows 7 was what Vista should have been. Vista, like Windows ME never seemed finished. Windows 7 had a nice finished feel to it and it became quite popular but never as popular as Windows XP was.

Then for some reason – again probably money – Microsoft started working on Windows 8. Now remember, between Windows 7 and Windows 8 – Apple had set the world on fire with iPod and iPad and iPhones and all sorts of products that consumers loved. iPad and iPhones – and later versions of the iPod all had big tiled start screens – which I admit, worked well on devices with smaller screens like phones and tablets. I can’t imagine having a start menu on a smart phone – one would have to have very nimble fingers and good eyesight to  tap those little tiny titles and icons. So Apple came up with a tiled interface where each program had a large tile shortcut that you tapped to open.

For some reason – Apple envy – Microsoft tried to turn Windows PCs into huge iPad. The result was a convoluted mess. If you look back over our newsletters for the past 2 years, you’ll find many tips for Windows 8, but you’ll also find my negative comments in many of them calling Windows 8 “a disaster”,, “a convoluted mess”and worse. You won’t find any glowing reviews from me about Windows 8 anywhere. It’s now how I work; it’s now how Darcy works. We are not shills for Microsoft. In fact, we’ve been pretty rough on them over the last five or six years. I think Microsoft has spent too much time trying to copy Apple and Android that they forgot the customers who made Microsoft the success that it is.

Windows 10 is the best thing Microsoft has done since XP. I’ve been using Windows 10 preview versions for six months or more. I have yet to see a major glitch. I have yet to see a feature that didn’t make sense (like Windows 8). With preview versions there are many updates over the life of the preview – each went without a hitch.

Glitches? Glitches? I don’t see no stinkin’ glitches 🙂

Maybe there will be glitches, but in months of using Windows 10 I’ve not seen anything that I’d consider a glitch. Past performance does not guarantee future performance, but as I found with XP back in its preview day – I don’t see any glitches and I never saw any major glitches in XP either.

Update or die!

If Windows 10’s update system was the same as the buggy on in Windows 7 and Windows 8x we might be tempted to agree with you. However, many of those reading this, perhaps even you, Jon, have an Android or Apple smartphone or and iPad or Android tablet, or a Chromebook.  Are these companies “dictators” because they don’t give you a choice not to update? All of these devices update silently so users always have the newest version of the operating system. Apple and those who make Chromebooks and Android devices have been doing this for years. It’s the only way I can see to keep an operating system updated to its newest version without releasing (and SELLING) new versions every few years (as Microsoft has always done).

While the PRO version does give you the option to defer upgrades for “several months” it does not give you the options not to install security updates – you’ll get those whether you want them or not.

And Windows 10 users a different way of updating and it doesn’t seem to have the problems of “failed updates” that plagued Windows 7 and continued to annoy Windows 8x users.

How Windows 10 handles updates

Windows 10 changes the way Windows Updates are delivered.

If Microsoft is being honest and this is the last named/numbered version of Windows, then updates are the only way to give users new features and new operating system upgrades – and this is exactly what Apple and makers of Android devices and Chromebooks have always done – it’s not forcing something down your throat if other companies do it, but it is when Microsoft does it?

And finally…

You write…

Irresspective of the accolades and beat-up you give to Windows 10………………in many ways I wish to advise…..’it does not wash’…………..Windows 7 on 3 our machines will remain until Microsoft cease being dictators…..imagine a car manufacturer telling a client how to drive the vehicle he paid for.

We don’t give Windows 10 a “beat up”. We don’t care if you keep Windows 7, Jon. That’s your decision. You’re certainly free to use what you like. Our job, or at least I think our job, is to tell it like it is. If something’s horrible, like Windows 8, we’ll tell you. If it’s great, like Windows 10, we’ll tell you. It’s our opinion. I imagine there are those using Windows 8 who actually like it – and that is certainly their opinion and they are free to keep using it. We are not telling you or anyone else they must install Windows 10 or we will think they are out of touch old fogies 🙂 Hey, we’re old fogies and maybe in someways out of touch, but we think we are spot on about Windows 10 – we like it and we like it more than any previous version of Windows except for Windows XP. If it only had a real desktop email program we’d like it even better than XP.

As far as your analogy of a car manufacturer telling you how to drive? That’s not a very good analogy. I have never seen Microsoft ever telling anyone how to use his or her computer. A better one would be a car manufacturer telling you that you would never have to buy a new car because they’re going to give you updates so you always have the newest model.

Thanks for your long time support. And please don’t think we’re going to be angry if you keep using Windows 7!

 

31 thoughts on “Jon takes us to task over our glowing review of Windows 10

  1. Dacec1ster

    You guys can spin it any which way you want but I think Jon is mostly right.
    It’s high time people stopped rolling over to M.S. idiotic ways.
    It is time however to change over to Apple and rid ourselves of Microsoft’s domineering ways.

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    1. infoave Post author

      If Linux is so good why isn’t it on more computers, smartphones, and tablets. Less than 1% of computers have Linux installed. Linux is an acquired taste…if that were not so it would have taken the world by storm. It’s been around over a decade.I have used several distros of Linux including Linux Mint and Unbuntu. I’m sorry but I was not impressed. If it was Linux or nothing, I’d choose Linux, but I much prefer Android, Apple, Windows or Chromebook over Linux.

      But as we have told readers for years – use that you like.

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    2. infoave Post author

      I’ve always said Apple fanatics would line up to buy gold plated cow pies if Apple sold them. No doubt Apple computers are excellent, they are also expensive. And given the fact that they don’t allow anyone else’s hardware (except carefully chosen printers) they don’t have to support as many devices and drivers as Windows. Apple computers break down and get old like any other.

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  2. Elizabeth

    I started with DOS and the first Windows version and used all Windows throughout the years. I agree with you about all the previous versions and when I finally moved to Windows 7, I wasn’t too happy as I preferred Windows XP and the way I could set the programs up the way I preferred, but I got used to it and for most people it was very good and easy to use.
    I agree wholeheartedly with you about Windows 10. I have the full Beta and have been using Windows 10 beta since it was first available, I couldn’t wait until July29th. This is definitely the cream of the crop.
    Others may have a different opinion, that is their right, but I suspect most people will agree with you. The added bonus will be the free upgrade to Windows 10. I can’t comment on the home version as I use the Pro version, I need that for me work.
    Although Microsoft has done a number of stupid things in the past, they are not forcing you to have updates, they don’t even force you to use their products. If you don’t like the way the company does things, buy an Apple, Linux or Android machine, problem solved.
    Elizabeth
    Elizabeth

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  3. Richard

    Well, I’m with Dacec1ster, I purchased a Macbook after ultimate and continuous frustration with Microsoft BS, and I never looked back. My wife is not an “Apple fanatic” but guess what? Apple lets you install Windows on the latest Macs and even provides the software to do so….a program called Boot Camp. The Mac is pricey, sure, but remember…. I didn’t have to purchase another PC, I just installed Windows on the Mac to appease my wife. Works great! And refresh my memory….when did Apple come up with a dud for an operating system in recent years? Sure, they have security issues, but they are nowhere near as numerous as MS and they are patched immediately, not once a month, as is the MS protocol. I don’t think Apple will release gold plated cow pies anytime soon…..just top quality hardware and operating systems that don’t disappoint. If C8 wanted to do the increasing numbers of “Apple fanatics” a real service they would include a section on the Mac in their newsletter. I’m just sayin’.

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    1. Richard

      Let’s make a clarification here. The Apple machines with the latest software let you install Windows on a separate partition using the Boot Camp software, thus allowing for the use of the Apple OS and the Windows OS on the same machine. You have a choice of operating systems upon powering up, a dual-boot system, if you will. You can also purchase a program to allow simultaneous running of both systems in a virtual environment.

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    2. infoave Post author

      Apple does not “let you ” install Windows any more than Windows lets you install OS X, Linux or some other operating system. I’m quite sure Apple doesn’t really care.

      You can install Windows on Apple using Boot Camp – you can install Linux, Apple OS X and other OS on Windows using Sun’s Virtual Box or any FREE virtualization programs available for windows. Boot Camp comes with OS X. So let’s get the facts straight – Apple does not let you install Windows – Boot Camp does.

      And, I highly doubt anyone who spends $1000+ for an Apple computer is going to shell out another $119 for Windows 10. If Apple is so good why would they want to?

      As I’ve said before – Apple could sell gold-plated cow pies and people would line up to buy them.

      Seriously , I don’t get why Apple users feel they have to knock Windows? Only about 7% of all home computers (PC) users use Apple. As crappy as Windows 8x is/was, there are still more computers in the world running the terrible Windows 8x than there are people running OS-X.

      http://www.pcworld.com/article/2050510/windows-8-users-now-outnumber-mac-addicts.html

      Why do you feel the need to proselytize? I guess i don’t get it.

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      1. Richard

        “So let’s get the facts straight – Apple does not let you install Windows – Boot Camp does.”

        Well, by including Boot Camp free with all recent Apple operating systems, actually Apple DOES let you install Windows. Let’s skip the technicalities and tell it like it is.

        “And, I highly doubt anyone who spends $1000+ for an Apple computer is going to shell out another $119 for Windows 10. If Apple is so good why would they want to?”

        I bought a copy of Windows 7 OEM on the cheap for $70.00 at an online electronics store. I wanted to , had to, actually, because I wanted to appease my wife, as I said in my response. She does not like the Apple OS. Many others may find this a solution to this problem.

        “Seriously , I don’t get why Apple users feel they have to knock Windows? Only about 7% of all home computers (PC) users use Apple. As crappy as Windows 8x is/was, there are still more computers in the world running the terrible Windows 8x than there are people running OS-X.”

        From my research on the subject, the PC World figures in the article are somewhat obfuscated. That article is almost two years old! But, absolutely, THERE ARE more PCs using Windows. They’re much cheaper. The Apple OS has a different, and to many, a more difficult learning curve . Having worked for a newspaper for many years, the Apple OS X comes as second nature to me. Sooner or later, as more people get tired of MS BS as I did, the numbers will equalize, from my perspective. My intent was to express an opinion, not to proselytize. There is no need to. As I said, the converts will come, sooner or later.

        FYI, from my experience, most, if not all new name-brand printers include access to Apple drivers.

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  4. Robert

    Instead of getting together on another site with other “ne’er-do-wells” they come here to talk trash to nice people. Maybe it gives them a sense of self-worth to try and put other’s success down.

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  5. Les

    The comments just re-inforce the old adage ‘You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time. 🙂

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    1. Randy Gerhart

      “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.

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  6. Janice M.

    I really appreciated the history lesson of computing; (I’m so old, my memory stinks!) haha Seriously, it was a great “refresher” for me. Simply put, it’s NOT MS I trust, it’s Cloudeight so I WILL definitely install Windows 10!

    Thank You, TC & EB–I truly appreciate all the hard work you do! Oh, just one more thing, I am going to wait a while before installing 10 because as you’ve said, once released, EVERYONE will go after it immediately like they do on BLACK FRIDAY! Rather than “getting trampled” via cyberspace– I’ll just patiently wait for awhile. I’m sure you’ll keep us updated as to when the crowds thin out.

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    1. Lee Connor

      I think you did a good job taking Jon and his weak opinions on. Like you said, his analogies are way off. I believe Win 10 is going to be a good one. I don’t always agree with you, but as always, a second opinion is always just more education. I have been with you guys since Win 95 and you are the only web site that I have stayed with all these years. Keep up the good work and don’t hesitate to tell us what you think. You have even managed to change my mind a few times. Take care. Lee

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  7. Don Barness

    We have 8 home computers. Two run Win 8.1 (touchscreen) and will be upgraded to Win 10.
    One old laptop runs a fresh install of Vista and I only mess with Firefox and Gmail on it. I can install Win 7 on it.
    Three telephone-book-size desktops started as XP’s and now run Win 7 and are not upgradeable.
    My favorite desktop runs Win 7 and is not upgradeable.
    My best desktop started as Vista, now runs Win 7, and will be upgraded to Win 10.
    My point? Windows 10 will not upgrade on all computers. It does have hardware requirements, video cards!
    I look forward to using Windows 10!

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  8. Reta

    I am in total agreement with Janice M and like her have full confidence in Cloudeight and will upgrade as you said when the traffic slows down and you post that in the newsletter..
    Would be similar to getting off a plane as it rolls up tot the gate.

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  9. Bigart

    Well peoples there are cranks everywhere for everything, follow the experts advice and you will be fine. Do not take crackpot remarks seriously.

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  10. Bryan

    Thanks to the history lesson, I started computing with the old dos5. when it changed to dos 6 we thought we was in heaven.
    then came the windows from win 3 to win 8x. have used them all. XP was the best at present using win7. you two have been a great help over the years, I haven’t agreed with everything you have said. but you have a right to your opinion, and that doesn’t mean I have to run you down.
    Please disregard Jon’s remarks and don’t get upset.
    Keep up the good work and thanks for the help you have given me

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  11. Bob Palmer

    You two have been my guiding light for about 15 years now and your advice has an unblemished record in my book. According to the actuarial tables of life expectancy, I will continue to need you for only a few more years now so I hope that you are both in fine fettle and in the position to cope with the financial stresses of your business.
    If, in the unlikely event that you turn out to be wrong about Windows 10, then I will have to leave town as your opinions have been broadcast (by me) far and wide among my “cyber circle”.

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  12. John

    I think Jon’s concerns have been to readily dismissed (although I agree that his concluding analogy is a bit weak). He’s not condemning Windows 10 — he’s expressing concern about the forced updates. And, based on previous newsletters from TC and EB, I share his concern. Several times over the past few years we’ve been warned to “not install the latest update” because it causes system problems. A few times we’ve even been helped in learning how to roll back buggy updates. I’m sure, based on TC and EB’s testing, Windows 10 is a much-improved OS — especially compared to Windows 8. But I won’t be at all surprised if a forced buggy update bites lots of users at some point.

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  13. Patricia

    I have listened to you for years I started with 95 and all you say is true and I am now waiting for 10 to arrive.

    Keep giving the good advice and ignore the skeptics.

    Thank you for all the advice I have been giving from you both.

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  14. Avey

    I will be changing over to Windows 10 but not right away. I am still unsure of the mail. Will all our e-mail Addresses and Contacts be transferred. I have been with Cloudeight since I had a Computer and my guess is about 10 yrs.
    Also I have 285GB left on my computer, I am not sure how much of that is used for Windows 10. If you can answer these questions I would appreciate. Thanks for being the kind of People you are. I value any of your opinions.
    Thanks
    Avey

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    1. infoave Post author

      HI Avey, it depends on your mail client.If you’re using Windows Live Mail or Outlook or even Thunderbird all your mail etc should transfer. If you’re using Windows Mail, it will need to be reinstalled – however all your mail and folders should be there once Windows Mail has been re-installed.

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  15. JoninOz

    Thanks to John’s comment which repeated my comment, and to all those who missed the point completely, I will put it another way. Microsoft will automatically install updates on computers with the Windows 10 Home O/S on a regular basis, for the Pro version of Windows 10, users will have a choice whether or not to allow updates to be installed immediately, but, if not installed within eight months there will be ‘serious consequences’ according to Microsoft.
    Updates in the past have caused problems, thanks to TC & EB, the update install number of a negative update and removal sequence has been supplied in Info Ave, but according to several technical articles, one will have to be a registry wizard playing with disaster to remove an update from Windows 10.
    Driver updates, remember, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
    Out of all the members who are negating my comments, how many have installed the test version, how many have read the Windows 10 EULA, and how many have heard of Helen Harmetz, Senior Product Manager at Microsoft, ? ? ? ? read below what she said, and watch the video :-

    http://windowsitpro.com/windows-10/keeping-windows-10-date-enterprises-cbb-will-have-8-months-update
    http://www.techienews.co.uk/9733840/microsoft-to-whip-enterprises-with-windows-10-patch-stick-to-keep-them-in-line/

    I like Windows 10, have been using the test version on an old lap-top.
    I have used every Windows operating system since Windows 3, and been in control of what goes in and what is removed.
    There is a dark side in modern computing, with many intrusive methods of control by those, other than the owner/user, and it is not surprising that there are many ‘techies’ and Tech. sites who are suspicious of the reason why Microsoft want partial control of the Windows 10 O/S, even though praise has been given to Windows 10, many have suggested ‘wait and see’ for 5-6 months with disagreeable sections of the EULA.
    Many

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    1. infoave Post author

      The information cited is from the preview version of Windows 10. The final version only allows you to delay the update – make sure the articles you read are up-to-date. Windows 10 has vastly changed from Windows 10 Tech Preview to Windows 10 RTM. Windows 10 PRO has the option to “Defer updates”for several months (not 8 months). You cannot defer security updates, you get them automatically on every version of Windows 10.

      I can show you screen shots if you like showing you what your options are – including the Defer option (turned off by default). I’m running Windows 10 Professional RTM (not tech preview) right now.

      Jon, you have made your point. You don’t like Microsoft. Those who have Android or Apple devices or Chromebooks get automatic upgrades to the newest version of their respective operating systems. You’re all fired up about something that really doesn’t matter – based on an article that is obviously anti-Microsoft and not even current. Pro users cannot defer security updates at all – so the updates that tend to cause the most problems (security patches and updates) are the ones you’re going to get automatically no matter what version of Windows you’re using – despite what you have read.

      Jon, no one is forcing you upgrade. You’re going to insist that Microsoft is some sort of reincarnation of Adolf Hitler and they are going to control the world. Microsoft finds themselves in a very different world in 2015 than they did in 2009 when Windows 7 was release. There were no iPads, there were no Chromebooks, there were no smart phones (at least as we know them today). There are more combined users of Android/Chrome and Apple devices than there are Windows users. Microsoft is evolving. It can no longer compete in the world market if it doesn’t evolve. Microsoft’s Windows business model has been to release a new version of Windows every 2 to 4 years and then wait for everyone to jump on the bandwagon – they made hundreds of billions of dollars this way. But they learned with Windows 8x that Windows & Microsoft don’t mean what they once did. So now they’re changing to be like Android and Apple and Chrome, they’re going to make one version of Windows and keep making changes (they call improvements) and add new features to it. So, Jon, how would you suggest Microsoft make sure that everyone is using the most current version of Windows? How does Apple do it? How does Google do it with Chrome? How do devices with Android keep their users current?

      So let’s get the facts straight with some non-biased factual, up-to-date information – this is an article from Woody Leonard a tech writer and long-time Windows expert writing in InfoWorld on 17 July 2015 (See the full article here.)

      Historically, the big problems are security patches, not feature updates

      In every discussion I’ve seen, security patches appear to be going out automatically to all branches (Consumer/Current Branch, Current Branch for Business, Long-Term Service Branch). It’s not yet certain if Windows Server Update Services, Windows Update for Business, and/or other update distribution servers will allow admins to hold security patches. Microsoft’s come up with an elaborate way of allowing admins to hold off on feature upgrades for varying lengths of time. But I haven’t seen any discussion of blocking security patches. We only know for sure that those who are not connected to an update server will get security patches as soon as they’re released.

      To a first approximation, that means all Windows 10 Home users and Windows 10 Pro users who aren’t attached to a server are going to get security patches as they’re rolled out, all around the clock, all months long.

      Historically, that’s the problem. Major feature upgrades (usually in the form of Service Packs, but most recently in the form of Windows 8.1 Update 1) may not install properly on many machines, but it’s unusual for them to trigger massive outages, blue screens, inexplicable behavior or hangs…

      *** Read the entire article here ***

      There is so much misinformation on the Internet. We have been hard on Microsoft many times – I have personally ridiculed them for their lack of innovation – they seemed to have gone from a leader to a follower – i.e. iPod —> Zune, iPhone — Kin phone (biggest failure ever – and now Windows Phone with less than 3% of the smartphone market), iPad —-> Surface. They needed new leadership and they got it. Whenever someone as big and as visible as Microsoft changes drastically, they’re sticking their chin out and it’s going to be punched.

      I don’t always defend Microsoft – in fact Darcy edits a lot of my anti-Microsoft comments out of our newsletters. However, I’m going to defend them on this issue. There had to be an end to the numbered/named version of Windows and Windows 10 is it. A decade from now people won’t be saying “Windows 7, Windows XP, Windows 8.1” it will just be Windows. No longer will people have to spend $100+ to get the latest version of Windows with the newest features. Microsoft no longer owns the world of computers and internet-connected devices. It’s not going to add things that people don’t need, want or like. They have millions of folks who joined Windows Insider who help test and mold Windows 10 – and I’m going to bet that Microsoft users all these millions of Windows Insiders to (voluntarily) test the newest updates and upgrades before they’re released to the public.

      I commend Microsoft for at least trying to evolve and compete in a very different tech world. It’s not easy to turn a big ship like Microsoft 180 degrees on a stormy sea.

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  16. Ken Roberts

    I may wait not sure but it would be because I have a problem with a graphics card right now and need to get that fixed what ever it is . I get a blue screen sometimes not to often but it always reads back to the card . I may wait till they have it in new computers and buy a lap top to replace my desk top .

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  17. OzarkMtnNana

    My first PC ran Windows 3.1. Then my next one had 95 on it. Somewhere in there I found Cloudeight when looking for some pretty Stationery. You guys have been my “go to” for all things Internet. I’ve used your Direct Care Computer Service a number of times and let me tell you that means **I TRUST YOU**. I don’t let just anyone take control of my computer.

    I am glad Jon brought up the questions he did. It gave you guys a wonderful opportunity to explain in even more depth a number of subjects many of us have not even thought about. As usual, you have replied with intelligent, easy to understand responses.

    Twenty years ago I seriously considered going into Computer Technology for a second career, but since I became a *Senior Citizen* over 10 years ago, I have decided to relax just let you guys keep up with everything and keep us informed of what we need to know. Here again because **I TRUST YOU**. For people like Jon, he seems knowledgeable enough to do his own thing; for the rest of us, we need your expertise and guidance.

    Please TC and EB know that what you do is appreciated.

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  18. JoninOz

    Dear TC and EB,

    I have always trusted your abilities, your faith toward members, your grit in heading forward without ads, the demise of Outlook Express and Stationery, the advice to all concerned re scams, spam, nasties, the tips and tricks, the E-books…………….endless assistance.

    Will you, please, advise, in depth, the meaning of the Windows 10 EULA, will updates be forcibly downloaded to Windows 10 Home computers..?
    Will businesses who use the Windows 10 Pro version face ‘serious -no more upgrade-consequences’ if they refuse up-dates.
    Why is it necessary to enforce updates….the problem being that many users remember too well the problems created with past faulty updates.
    Windows updates for drivers, yes/no…..how to say no…..it ain’t broke……an EB,TC morsel of advice.
    With all the spying which abounds, will Microsoft be watching everything I use on my computer.

    These are comments from people, hearing about computer ‘nasties’, and because I assist senior citizens with computer maintenance, many read about, ‘Intrusion by PC camera’ those who keep contact with relatives, and there is more with hacks, etc, etc.

    Irrespective of all the articles relating to Windows 10, there is a great amount of mistrust in Microsoft dictating what they will or will not do……and if I wait and purchase Windows 10, I still must agree with the EULA……..will I allow an appliance supplier to dictate how I use the product……outside in the real world, this is what is happening…..Windows 10, free, is there a catch, yes,……Aha………..there must be.

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  19. Jean

    I am not sure I will download Windows 10. I am having problems with email. The ones lately I delete are coming back to my in-box. This just happen in the pass two weeks. My computer is an HP and it is not even 2 years that I have had it. In fact I took it back to Staples 11/2 months after I bought it. They got it run like it should. But in the past 2 months or so, I used a few bad words trying to make it run like it should. I have had checked out and there has been no problem as far as having malware, and other malicious doings. Even my key board skips letters when I type. I am thinking about taking back to Staples and have them go through again, I still have a warranty on it. It seems to act up more often. I hope next week I can take it there, and they can find what the problems are. Thank you for all your advice, it has helped me immensely

    P.S. I hope Window’s 10 work.

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  20. Geri Faust

    I have a few questions – somewhere I read that IE will be the ‘main browser. I use and love Google and would like to keep it. Being 78 yrs old, I could have misunderstood what I read. Also, I am wondering if and when I install Win 10, does it also remove Win 7 from my computer?

    I can’t get back to use Windows Mail because of a sign in problem, so I use gmail and love it. Would I still be able to keep it and will Win 10 just delete it or will it still be there?

    Please help.

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  21. Geri Faust

    Sorry, I forgot another question – I would like to get Emsisoft and was wondering if I should get it now or get it after installing Win 10. I have the Direct computer Care keys and would like to get help with making sure I get it installed correctly. I have a laptop and a desktop PC. I only trust your opinion as I have been with you since 1995.

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