Site Reputation – Norton imitates WOT

By | February 26, 2012

Over the past couple of weeks we have been receiving emails like this one from Elaine:

“I have this morning downloaded some of your stationery (older Easter stationery) and Norton’s (yes, I know you don’t like it) have sent up a couple warnings regarding it, classing it WS.Reputation.1, which I take to mean there isn’t enough people using it to give it a good reputation? Surely there is no problem with your stationery? Thanks Elaine.”

First of all, we’ll tell you what “WS.Reputation.1” means It means “Web Site Reputation”. If you notice the format of WS.Reputation.1, it’s in the standard format used for naming viruses, Trojans, and other malicious files.

It’s incredible that an anti-virus company, especially one which has been around for 20 years, would ever stoop to this kind of slick marketing ruse. WS Reputation means the reputation of a file as determined by a community of those who use Norton. If not enough people rate it good, or don’t rate it at all – that file warrants a warning: a WS.Reputation.1 warning. There is nothing so frightening as ignorance in action.

Why would any anti-virus company rely on a “community” of people who cannot possibly be experts in virus or malware detection to have anything to do with what a security program detects as “dangerous”. It’s just astounding to me that people buy into this “community” ruse. Is there something a “community” of users who have no special credentials does to improve an anti-virus product to make it better? No.

It’s bad enough that WOT gets away with this sort of thing, but when an antivirus starts warning users about download simply because the “community” is not familiar with it, or there’s not enough community postings about it, that’s going way too far. So a software program is guilty until its community deems it innocent? It seems to me that people would want their antivirus/antispyware/antimalware program to detect real threats – threats that can harm their computer, threaten their identity, or subvert their personal information – based on actual unbiased, logical threat detection techniques and scientific data – and not on the consensus of some unseen community of people whose only expertise is that they user Norton products.

Norton, in their magnanimity, does provide a way for companies who make software to have their negative ratings removed: Simply fill out a long form (which would take 30-45 minutes) for each download for which you want the negative removed. In a few weeks, if Norton sees fit, the negative will be removed. And in the meantime the site (our site) loses hundreds, perhaps thousands of visitors who probably won’t ever return because they think (thanks to Norton) that we are distributing infected files. We have over 5000 downloads. Are we guilty because we cannot possibly  fill out 5000 separate forms? We cannot possibly fill out that many forms and wait for weeks while Norton decides if our files should be whitelisted? We have been on the Web for almost 13 years and we served millions of downloads; our files have never harmed a single computer; we never once distributed a single malicious file and we never will.

Norton is pandering to its users, providing them a “say” in its security warnings. Norton has seen its sales drop sharply over the years as new companies with better security software have emerged. Facing stiff competition, Norton, instead of lowering their ridiculously high subscription prices, or improving their program by getting rid of their high-rate of false-positives and lowering the amount of system resources it uses, has stooped to gamesmanship and pandering by enabling its users to have a say in what is dangerous and what is not. It has taken WOT’s silly idea to a new level.

If after learning that Norton has sunken to a new low. Allowing random, anonymous users to contribute to its threat-detection database is dangerous and asinine. If someone still trusts in and chooses to use Norton after learning this,then they deserve what they get. Instead of improving their product, Norton just keeps getting worse. It’s always been an expensive, intrusive, bloated security suite. Norton has always suffered from a very high rate of false positives. And now by relying on millions of users most of whom have no expertise at all in antivirus detection techniques, Norton has become infinitely more inaccurate.

It’s hard to believe that anyone with even a modicum of knowledge of the Internet and the real threats that we all face, would ever use Norton 360 or any other Norton security product to protect their computer.

There are so many good free and less-expensive security programs available; we just don’t understand why anyone would pay $59 a year for a product that – just when we think it couldn’t get any worse-  finds a way to do just that. Norton built its reputation over a decade ago when it and McAfee were the only choices for antivirus protection PC users had. The world has changed and there are many excellent choices for antivirus, antispyware and antimalware – which are better, cheaper, more effective. Norton isn’t a household name because it’s better; it’s a household name because of a reputation it built over a decade ago when the internet was a very different place and there were only two antivirus products available.

It’s bad enough that WOT engages in this community reputation-rating ruse; but it is downright dangerous when an when an antivirus/antispyware security product does it.

We were absolutely shocked when we learned that Norton would stoop to this level of incompetency. Now Avast has decided to allow its users to decide what is dangerous and what is not  Silly? Yes. But more importantly, allowing a security program’s users to have any say in its threat detection process is not only foolish,  but dangerous as well.

4 thoughts on “Site Reputation – Norton imitates WOT

  1. harold

    My response Nortons and McAfee are a money making machine and not worth it , At one time I belive you posted a few free ones that are much better, I use AVg it is free and for me it does the job I do all you let us know about and no problems .

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  2. Barbara

    It is interesting that I also got a warning this week when downloading stationery from Cloudeight from Cisco (router) indicating that the file I was about to download “could” be a malicious file. I’ve been a subscriber for as long as there has been a newsletter from Cloudeight and trust them explicitly so there was no doubt in my mind that I did not have to be concerned. I was not even aware that Cisco would give a warning like that so now it makes me wonder about their products also.

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  3. Ken Roberts

    I would not use Norton if it was free . I have been free of malicious malware for a long time with Cloud Eight recommendations . I have never been steered in the wrong direction with their wisdom.

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  4. Janice

    I have been a user of your websites since you first started putting out stationary, I have your home page on all three of my computers. I KNOW you are not ‘evil’ and that all your information and tips help or helped hundreds of people.
    I never have and never will use Norton or any other ‘pay to be tricked’ antivirus programs. The idea of the general population judging websites for these programs is ridiculous. I used AVG and it was okay, but switched to Microsoft’s Security Essentials plus SuperAntispyware, I don’t believe I have ever had a virus in all the years I have been using computer – which is too long ago to mention. LOL.
    Thank you so much for all the work you do and the efforts you go to assist people.
    Janice

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